In a podcast interview on Sea Control for the Center for International Maritime Security, Bryan Clark and Tim Walton discuss their recent report and what the future of the U.S. Navy.

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Gunners from the Armed Forces of Ukraine fire at Russian position with a 155 mm self-propelled howitzer 2C22 in the Kharkiv region on April 21, 2024. (Anatolii Stepanov/AFP via Getty Images)